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20-08-2007, 06:01
etyxe kai vre8hke sta xeria mou apo Japan ena ps3 pou einai ntsc
omoiopa8eis kante kana feedback
meta apo ligo psa3imo sto net kai thn voh8eia tou ps3forums.gr vrhka pia games paizoun kai pia oxi
parakalw postarete kai eseis oti neotero
2 of the games/demos downloaded from PSN EU is not working on NTSC console hooked to SDTV. The games are Tekken and GTHD. However these titles work great on HDTV setup. I assumed that other demos/titles on PSN EU store are multicoded with PAL and NTSC and HD. In SDTV mode, the console will force-output its native console signal (NTSC), but in HDTV mode, the NTSC/PAL restriction is not an issue anymore. As we know that some PSN contents are affected with this limitation, I wonder if this problem also affect disc-based titles? I know that Sony already stated PS3 games are region-free, but are they region-free for HDTV only or including SDTV as well?
UPDATE:
*Certain disc-based PS3 games are affected as well*
------------------------------
These are what I believe happened for PS3 (BD games & PSN contents, not movie DVDs & PS1 & PS2 games):
The contents are either coded in:
1) NTSC-SD and HD
2) PAL-SD and HD
3) NTSC-SD and PAL-SD and HD
*some contents are NTSC-less/PAL-less but also in SD, and this is not a concern
Case a:
NTSC console + HDTV + Multicoded contents (NTSC+PAL+HD coded)
The console will try to output in HD mode to HDTV = titles worked
Case b:
NTSC console + SDTV + Multicoded contents (same as above)
The console will output NTSC-SD content only = titles worked
Case c:
NTSC console + SDTV + PAL-coded contents (PAL-SD and HD)
The console will refuse to play the PAL-SD content ["This game is not supported. (80028F10)"] or ["You cannot play this game at the current video output setting. (80028F10)"] on new firmware.
#All of the above are purely based on my observation/conjecture, and I might be wrong. Please correct if you feel there is anything wrong
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So anyone here can confirm which EU/PAL PS3 disc-based games worked with NTSC consoles in SDTV setup?
This might save someone that import consoles and play locally-released titles from buying a non-working disc title.
Gamestores here do not accept opened games for return. I hope this post can collate and compile list of working games on SDTV.
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PSN EU/UK/PAL CONTENTS:
------------------------------------------
Working (480i/p):
Assassin's Creed
Battlefield: Bad Company
Bioshock - promo
Burnout Paradise
Call of Duty 4
Clive Barker's Jericho
Condemned 2 - promo
Dead Space
Def Jam
Devil May Cry 4
F1
Fallout 3
FIFA 08
FIFA 09
Fight Night 3
Guitar Hero III
Guitar Hero: World Tour
Harry Potter 5
Ironman - promo
Kane And Lynch
Lego Batman
Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Midnight Club
Mirror's Edge
Motorstorm
Naruto: Ninja Storm
NBA Live '08
Need for Speed Carbon
Need for Speed: Pro Street
Ninja Gaiden
PES 2008
PES 2009
Race Driver: GRiD
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Resistance
Sega Rally (Sega Rally Revo)
Skate
Soul Calibur IV - (AU and UK)
Singstar Vol1
Singstar Vol2
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
Transformers
The Darkness
Top Spin 3
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Valkyria Chronicles
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3
Warhawk
Not Working:
Army of Two - Works with R:FOM method
Bladestorm
Buzz!: Quiz TV (Australian)
Call of Duty 3
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam - Works with R:FOM method
Far Cry 2
FEAR
Gran Tourismo 5: Prologue - Works with R:FOM method
Grand Theft Auto IV
Heavenly Sword - Works with R:FOM method
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
NBA2K7
NHL08
Oblivion
Saints Row 2
Spider-Man 3
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows - promo
Simpsons
Siren: Blood Curse
Tiger Woods 07
WWE Snackdown Vs Raw 2008
UK PSN Store:
Working:
Bionic Commando: Rearmed
Calling all Cars
flOw
Loco Roco Cocorocho
Metal Gear Solid 4: Database
Pixel Junk Eden
Pixel Junk Monsters
Super Rub-a-Dub
Superstardust HD
Warhawk
Not Working:
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Gran Turismo HD 2.0
Tekken DR
Resistance Expliot
1. make sure you dont have any resistance patches installed
2. load up resistance
3. get into a level and pause
4. swap the resistance disc with the non-working game
5. wait a bit
6. press the "quit to main menu" or whatever the quit one says
7. cross fingers
8. game should load
However this might have some problem with game saves.
omoiopa8eis kante kana feedback
meta apo ligo psa3imo sto net kai thn voh8eia tou ps3forums.gr vrhka pia games paizoun kai pia oxi
parakalw postarete kai eseis oti neotero
2 of the games/demos downloaded from PSN EU is not working on NTSC console hooked to SDTV. The games are Tekken and GTHD. However these titles work great on HDTV setup. I assumed that other demos/titles on PSN EU store are multicoded with PAL and NTSC and HD. In SDTV mode, the console will force-output its native console signal (NTSC), but in HDTV mode, the NTSC/PAL restriction is not an issue anymore. As we know that some PSN contents are affected with this limitation, I wonder if this problem also affect disc-based titles? I know that Sony already stated PS3 games are region-free, but are they region-free for HDTV only or including SDTV as well?
UPDATE:
*Certain disc-based PS3 games are affected as well*
------------------------------
These are what I believe happened for PS3 (BD games & PSN contents, not movie DVDs & PS1 & PS2 games):
The contents are either coded in:
1) NTSC-SD and HD
2) PAL-SD and HD
3) NTSC-SD and PAL-SD and HD
*some contents are NTSC-less/PAL-less but also in SD, and this is not a concern
Case a:
NTSC console + HDTV + Multicoded contents (NTSC+PAL+HD coded)
The console will try to output in HD mode to HDTV = titles worked
Case b:
NTSC console + SDTV + Multicoded contents (same as above)
The console will output NTSC-SD content only = titles worked
Case c:
NTSC console + SDTV + PAL-coded contents (PAL-SD and HD)
The console will refuse to play the PAL-SD content ["This game is not supported. (80028F10)"] or ["You cannot play this game at the current video output setting. (80028F10)"] on new firmware.
#All of the above are purely based on my observation/conjecture, and I might be wrong. Please correct if you feel there is anything wrong
--------------------------------
So anyone here can confirm which EU/PAL PS3 disc-based games worked with NTSC consoles in SDTV setup?
This might save someone that import consoles and play locally-released titles from buying a non-working disc title.
Gamestores here do not accept opened games for return. I hope this post can collate and compile list of working games on SDTV.
=====================================
PSN EU/UK/PAL CONTENTS:
------------------------------------------
Working (480i/p):
Assassin's Creed
Battlefield: Bad Company
Bioshock - promo
Burnout Paradise
Call of Duty 4
Clive Barker's Jericho
Condemned 2 - promo
Dead Space
Def Jam
Devil May Cry 4
F1
Fallout 3
FIFA 08
FIFA 09
Fight Night 3
Guitar Hero III
Guitar Hero: World Tour
Harry Potter 5
Ironman - promo
Kane And Lynch
Lego Batman
Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Midnight Club
Mirror's Edge
Motorstorm
Naruto: Ninja Storm
NBA Live '08
Need for Speed Carbon
Need for Speed: Pro Street
Ninja Gaiden
PES 2008
PES 2009
Race Driver: GRiD
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Resistance
Sega Rally (Sega Rally Revo)
Skate
Soul Calibur IV - (AU and UK)
Singstar Vol1
Singstar Vol2
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
Transformers
The Darkness
Top Spin 3
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Valkyria Chronicles
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3
Warhawk
Not Working:
Army of Two - Works with R:FOM method
Bladestorm
Buzz!: Quiz TV (Australian)
Call of Duty 3
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam - Works with R:FOM method
Far Cry 2
FEAR
Gran Tourismo 5: Prologue - Works with R:FOM method
Grand Theft Auto IV
Heavenly Sword - Works with R:FOM method
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
NBA2K7
NHL08
Oblivion
Saints Row 2
Spider-Man 3
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows - promo
Simpsons
Siren: Blood Curse
Tiger Woods 07
WWE Snackdown Vs Raw 2008
UK PSN Store:
Working:
Bionic Commando: Rearmed
Calling all Cars
flOw
Loco Roco Cocorocho
Metal Gear Solid 4: Database
Pixel Junk Eden
Pixel Junk Monsters
Super Rub-a-Dub
Superstardust HD
Warhawk
Not Working:
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Gran Turismo HD 2.0
Tekken DR
Resistance Expliot
1. make sure you dont have any resistance patches installed
2. load up resistance
3. get into a level and pause
4. swap the resistance disc with the non-working game
5. wait a bit
6. press the "quit to main menu" or whatever the quit one says
7. cross fingers
8. game should load
However this might have some problem with game saves.